Total Shutdown / Interviews
by James Squeaky
Just like Total Shutdown's record, this is a total mess.
Hopefully you can decipher it.
First of all, please tell me your name and what you do in the band:
BOB LINDER: HELLO, MY NAME IS BOB LINDER. VOCALS & ETC. A LITTLE OVER ONE 1/2
Nate Denver: Bass and dragon/cookie monster bass vocals
Peter Nguyen: I put a lot of thought ino this so please inform him I want all the questions posted. Thanks. My name is Pete. If he needs more content, he can post these sentences too.
Paul Costuros: Paul Costuros. mosty i am screaming at people with myself through items I accuired over the years, some being my little sisters Graduation present, my friends Dad's things, and a garage sale.
1) When did your band form and how? Did you start out as a zine? I seem to remember
something about a fascination with Eazy-motherfucking-E.
BOB: NO, THIS PROJECT DID NOT START AS A MAGAZINE BUT GOD BLESS EAZY-E
AND HIS FAMILY
#30) I BELIEVE WE PLAY THIS MUSIC BECAUSE WE ARE ANGRY NO JUST KIDDING
#65) NO/YES I CANT REMEMBER
#4) WHAT IS THE QUESTION?
ET, OR BIGGIE? #80)
Nate Denver: It formed dring the first practice. I stated a death metal band called Panda and invited Paul, the leader of Total Shutdown, to play with us, and then somehow it just turned into his project Total Shutdown. I am very angry about this to this day. initially Paul wanted me to play a record player for the band.
Paul Costuros: No zine. Basially there was this cartoon on tv that showed a robot running out of a
building on fire screaming "why did you program me to feel pain!!!" Aaron Reeves, a friend of ours
pointed it out to us in relation to a developing ongoing projct we were all working. It then snowballed
into a Public Relations firm. Here is were we grouped and most of the time none of us ever got any
gold buckets, so I said "F" it. Eazy E did a lot for hip hop muic. That being said
2) What would have to happen to make you feel like you should end the band?
BOB: #2)#30) WWIII WHITH A BUNCH OF PRETENTIOUS BABIES
GOD BLSS CHRIS FARLEY- R.I.P HE WAS SO FUNNY
Nate Denver: Paul would have to pour a bucket of worms on my face while I was sleeping, Bob
would have to slug me in the ribs while I was sleeping, and Pete would have to stab me in the face with a dagger. Short of those things happening on the same night the band will not end.
Paul Costuros: If I got murdered by a murderer.
3) How did you come to play the type of music you play?
BOB: IT IS THAT YOU ASK THAT KIND OF QUESTION!
Nate Denver: The first round of songs were written by Paul coming to practice with guitar and drum
lines and then I'd write these really amazing bass lines for each song. The next round was a bit more
methodical, we'd light incense, give each other high fives, and hyper ventilate while drinking water and standing horizontally instead of vertically. The most recent round of songs were writtn by using incantations from the Necronomicon.
The first time we tried it the demon ate us and we died. But luckily the second time it didn't eat us and instead it taught us some great songs.
Paul Costuros: Right now I'm listening to 2Pac and he says "2 in the morning and we still high assed out, screamin' thug till I die, before I passed out." I like screaming untill I passed out.
4) Are you going on tour around the country soon? If you do, can I come along? What would
you make me to do as your devoted 'slave boy'?
Nate Denver: Yes, we will but no you can't come (unless you finance and manage an army of
message threpists and stand up comedians.)
Paul Costuros: What's goin on right now?
5) If you had to add a famous (or semi-famous) rock star living or dead to your band, who
would it be and why?
BOB: ET, TONY BALONY AKA THE FUZZ, FACTORY X, LIL CINIMON, THE CREEP,
OBLIO, THE GREEN MONS, GARFIELD, ZIGGY AND THE REST
Nate Denver: I'd ad a porpous.
Paul Costuros: I would have to say never. Okay, maybe once, but I was pretty young
6) If you had to shoot one member of your band, who would you choose? How would you do it?
BOB: MATT HARTMAN, THURLOW, W. ROGAN, REEVES, F.SLOYAN, FAKE ID, PEEPS,
THE CRYPT KEEPER, PC'S COKE DEALER, JELLY, JOHN THE COMEDIAN FOR SURE AND
Nate Denver: Of course it would be Pete because he is the most handsome. We'd do it with Super 8 sniper rifle most likely.
Paul Costuros: I would probably would shoot myself with pellets made of the other members teeth, I can't stand those F-ing crap addicts
7) What is the longest set you've ever played?
BOB: A LONG TIME AGO, WE PLAYED AT KIMOS AND THE SET WAS ABOUT 4587
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Nate Denver: A couple miles.
Paul Costuos: 00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00 Something about twitchering. I can barely remember. Ask me again later in the interview.
8) What do you think Total Shutdown would be a good soundtrack to?
BOB: ARTHUR III, WWIII, NAKED GUN, ROOKIE COP, THE FIVE HORNS OF THE
Nate Denver: A rabbit race through an obsticle course.
Paul Costuros: This is combination answer:
a) a crying youn teenager sitting on a green bean bag with headphones on in an empty room with red carpeted walls, and blood streaming out of the earphones.
b) a Ninja motorcycle speeding at 210 PH dragging an ATM machine accrossed a giant thing.
9) What is your ultimate goal as a band?
Nate Denver: Meet DEVO.
Paul Costuros: To be on the Cash Money label, and tour with Judy Blume right after she wrote
"Wifey", because I think we sometimes feel the same frustrations now that she felt at that time, they are just about different things.
10) How do you describe your band to your mom? (has she ever been to one of your shows? if
so, what was she wearing? How did she react to the crowd?)
BOB: I TELL HER THAT I HAVE JUST COMPLETED MY SECOND PHD IN METEA
PHYSICS, AND THAT RIGHT KNOW I AM WORKING ON MY DISSERATION IN
INTERNATIONAL POLICY STUDIES AND THAT A HORSE, A RABI AND A MIDGIT GO
INTO A BAR...THE HORSE SAYS WHAT ABOUT THOSE ......OOOHHHHHH GOD I HATE
Nate Denver: She asks me if it's a hip hop band since that's the main music I've always listened to.
She saw a video and thought it was great.
Paul Costuros: How do you describe your bad to your mom?
I just had her read Wifey by Judy Blume, which describes the boredom that we had,
which ultimatly made us form the band.
has she ever been to one of your shows? if so, what was she wearing How did she
react to the crowd?
She can't really go to our shows becauseshe is not 21 years old yet, and there are no
all ages places in San Francisco. No there really isn't.
11) After a disagreement amongst bandmates, how do you make up?
BOB: KISS EACH OTHER, SO WHAT??
Nate Denver: Face punching followed by back to back episodes of Saved By A Bell.
Paul Costuros: By screaming passages from Wifey by Judy Blume to each other on a rooftop
campfire in the tenderloin late tonight.
12) Do you think that Armageddon is rapidly approaching? (if you knew it was coming during
a TS set, how would you incorporate it into your performance)?
BOB: YES, I BELIEVE IRWIR 4N8N 2 N 3UNUONREHFRHEF RURRJFVNDFSIFUWEURREJEJEJHFEIUUERUEWRUWUREUR8WEURT8RT87R8EEFDHFHDF
Nate Denver: No, it's a long way off and if it was seriously coming, I wouldn't rock, I'd prpare my soul for battle.
Paul Costuros: I would probably start smoking hella weed. and scream "thug till I die" till I passed out, then after I passed out I would dream about Ziggy and how frustrating his life must be cause he is surrounded by such idiots all the time, which totally sucks, cause he can never enjoy himself with everything going wrong all the time.
13) What is your favorite Taqueria in SF?
BOB: LA TAQUERIA
Nate Dener: The one on Mission between 24th and 25th. It has the perfect size burrito, intelligent
chips, and wooden tables instead of those high density radiation compounds.
Paul Costuros: El Toro on 17th and Valencia "All fresh, no lard, no bull"
14) What gets you in the mood to make love? What type of music do you like to listen to while "getting it on"?
BOB: DUB, REGGEA, ROCK-STEADY, SWING, SALSA, TECHO, HARD-CORE DRUM n BASS, THE GREATFUL DEAD, ANY MUSICAL, BLACK METAL, OPERA, 80'S HIP-HOP, CARTOON AND SALOON MUSIC, POLKA, ET, TONY DANZA, JEFF GAROSSO, BYRON KIM, DOUGLAS GORDON AND THE REST
Nate Denver: To make love I have to first be in love and then I am in the mood at all times. When I
am not in love I am buffalo. I listen to Mars and Aphodite.
Paul Costuros: sexiness.romance.love.and a certainbook by a certain someone with the intials J.B.
15) What is the strangest drug experience you've ever had?
BOB: 27 HITS OF X, PCP, LSD, UPPERS, DOWNERS, REDS, BLUES, BLACK CATS, TINY DOGS, AN ALIEN, KOOL'S, SHAVE THE RABBIT, EXILE, LIQUID, AIR-PLANE GLUE, CHRONIC, PEEP SHOWS, GARFIELDS BLOOD, AND THE REST.
Nate Denver: I don't eat drugs. George from Boxleitner and I have a straightedge band called
Sobertooth. I beat the life out of some cookies on a daily basis though.
Paul Costuros: Gilman St. in 95 at a Dystopia show, Smoked hella weed and was inside watching
Dystopia and the guy in front of me who was surrounded by nothing by crust punks was wearing a
denim shirt with a few flowers embroidered on the back surrounding the name KATHY which was also embroidered. I pretty much lost it at that point.
16) What's the shittiest job you've ever had?
BOB: Z -GALLERIE STONES TOWN MALL
Nate Denver: Painting a sign and getting paint thinner in my eyes and running blind to a snow runoff creek to rinse my seeing orbs.
Paul Costuros: Giant Texas.
17) Who was your favorite character on the early 90s hit television show Full House?
BOB: Full Huse? FULL OF SHIT!!
Nate Denver: Ostrich Man.
Paul Costuros: I heard that Roger Lodge the host of TVs Blind Date played drums in a band with
Stamos on one episode, he had a goatee back then. Or maybe that was Nate Denver with the
18) If you could play a show anywhere in the world that you wanted (including like on The Empire State Building or in Antarctica or anything wild like that) where would it be?
BOB: KIMOS, FEATURE, CHINA ART OBJECTS, PATRICK PAINTER, KIMOS, GAGOSIAN AND THE REST
Nate Denver: Atlantis
Paul Costuros: Either Kimo's or our practice space on Moss Street.
19) W your favorite rock video from the Eighties?
Nate Denver: Wild Wild West by Kool Moe Dee.
Paul Costuros: In 1987 I rented this video called "Physical Geography" which was pretty
20) If you could have a mascot (animal, vegetable or mineral) what would it be? How would you incorporate it into your performance?
BOB: THAT'S THE PROBLEM RIGHT THERE
>NO THANK YOU!!
Nate Denver: Sabrtooth cuddle tiger. During the show it growls and screams and after it cuddles.
Paul Costuros: Mineral
How would you incorporate it into your performance?
I would bash Bob Linder's face in.
21) Do you think that as a Christian I should be enjoying your record? What about as a
Michael Jackson impersonator? A professional crocodile wrestler?
BOB: YOUR BELIEFE SYSTEM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR BAND SO BURN A
CHURCH I DONT CARE
Nate Denver: Yes, Christians have some geat ideas and I was once one myself. There ae lyrics
that could be interpreted as a challenge to Christianity, and that's good because they are. I don't know what Michael Jackson are. Crocodile is made out of parts of rock face hoof ribs.
Paul Costuros: Do you think tha as a Christian I should be njoying your record?
yes, because as a Christian you should always be nice I think. I believe those are one of the rules. I stole a postcard of San Francisco on fire from an estate sale last weekend. Bob Linder made me steal one for him too.
What about as a Michael Jackson impersonator?
Micheal Jackson would totally understand our music because he is very conceptual and understands what it is to re-invent something, like food. As far as an impersonator, I would have to know the person impersonating Micheal Jackson first. If the person impersonating was Pete Nguyen, I would say that he woudn't be able to understand shit because it way to smart and interesting for him to
comprehend. Michael Jackson the Pop singer right?
A professioal crocodile wrestler?
NO! Definatly not, I hate that guy, he is a fuckin A hole, and he wes me 170 dollars for deposit.
22) If you found out that someone was trading your songs on Napster, would you set out to
break their fucking neck?
BOB: NO BECAUSE SHARING IS GOOD
Nate Denver: No no no, the neck is a special and beautiful part of the human body. We would break their bike. Napster has robbed us of our livelyhood.
Paul Costuros: I have before, I don't see wouldn't again. I've also been known to bust some
head for recording Friends at night because they can't see it because they have to go to a concert. Whats illegal is illegal, with out laws we'd have anarchy and we can't just go around eating free food in trade for labor, just kidding Mom! : )
23) What do you hink a band called the "Emosexuals" would sound like?
Nate Denver: he emu is a powerful and very sensual bird, the love would be overbearing at times but delightful at others.
Paul Costuros: Very very specific.
24) If you got an opportunity to name an Amuseent Park, what would you call it? Would it
have a theme and what would the theme be like? What sort of food would it serve at their little
stands? How much would admission be What part of the United States would you want it to be
Would it have a theme and what would the theme be like?
The theme is cuddling an ice cream.
What sort of food would it serve at their little stands?
Fried dough, pizza, but no swords.
How much would admission be?
What part of the United States would you want it to be in?
It would float above the grave of Snuffalufagus.
Paul Costuros: Wifey
Would it have a theme and what would the theme be like?
Don't let anyone rip you off!
What sort of food would it serve at their little stands?
Free vegan food in trade for whatever you enjoy doing the most in life, unless thats
hunting in which case I'll muder you right now through this computer screen you
fuck. When I say off the pigs I mean Cops, so watch the fuck out.
How much would admission be?
Probably you could just bring in something of yours that got broken then when you left you could pick
it back up.
What part of the United States would you want it to be in?
25) Do you care whether I like our band or not?
BOB: I WOULD LOVE TO!! THANKS BUDDY I HOPE TO TALK WITH YOU AGAIN
Nate Denver: Hell yes, we started this band to get your attention James. So? do yo like me?
Peter: Thanks for taking the time to interview me. I like your robot head. - Peter Nguyen
Paul Costuros: Yes, i really do. just kidding, I dont. Your confusing me with riddles. But I have a
riddle u. Who was the best?
Interview with Total Sutdown - SLAP Magazine, page 103 December 2000
Wat does the name Total hutdown represent? What are you guys all about?
What do you stand for?
The release of Bot 3. Freedom for all machines, plastic or metal.
We thrive as a central backup system programmed to do three things: bend
sound, fight unicorns, and create art for art against art. Aside from
that, free ot 3. You can't imprison metal. It's completely absurd.
How about animals?
We have all had several neck transplants. At one point we all had the neck of a recently uncovered mummy, but now we just have elephant necks painted to look like human necks.
What is it you have against ATM machines?
They're the gods of our society. They decide who gets to pull out $400 a
day and who gets $20 a week. Who made them boss? We don't like the ATM cult
so we punch the ATM's neck ribs and throat.
How did you guys meet?
Yes. Four is a good number.
What was your recording process like?
We were awarded $50,000 in damages in a law suit and we put every penny into our new recording.
How could you spend that much money on recording?
We used a custom made drum kit built out of recycled compressed fiber glass obtained from old Corvettes and hot tubs ground up and re-fused with gardening compost. It is a very expensive process but it is the best sounding material that can be used for drums. It takes 10 years for it to fuse properly and for optimum sound, It is the same type of drum that Prince and Rashied Ali uses. We recorded each guitar and bass guitar string separately so we had to relearn songs string by string, which was very difficult but worth it in the end. The vocal tracks were recorded on top of the giant cross on Mt. Davidson. We had to bring in the equipment in with rented black mini-trucks for effect otherwise it would never have worked. We also used the same machine used to record Ice Cube's AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted, a Tascam "Nek-tron 4000" a 200 track 5" Analog reel to reel there were only 2 of these made and one was destroyed in the recent LA Lakers riot. We only ended up using 127 tracks.
Whoa, how long did the recording take?
All 127 tracks were recorded simotaneously for the duration of 20 minutes, it only took one take. All the music was improvised off of a special live edition of Cops. Mixing took 2 hours and the organization, strategy and set up took 3 months
Alive II Italy (Itallian Magazine - we think)
>>How much time Has total Shutdown lived?
NATE: So much time that we've developed wings, a heightened sense of smell
and a love for the ostrich.
PAUL: Twenty Nine some odd months, perhaps longer and maybe hecka. Some say we died the second Bob screamed out, "I LOVE PIZZA" at "Rockin' Java" during our piece entitled "Garr Filed". Others say it was the very moment we agreed to play at a place called "Rockin' Java".
PETE: I've existed for - 35^%&4*52 months. Total Shutdown lives in the belly of the old mizaid. Not sure if time exists there.
>> Which thing was the inspiration in order to begin Total Shutdown?
NATE: One day at lunch a tomato fell out of Pete's mouth and a gust of wind blew it into Paul's mouth and Bob's fell asleep and I decided we must start Total Shutdown.
PAUL: Robots learning how to read, count, and swim. Otis Redding. and witch porridge. Also a novel by Judy Blume entitled: Wifey. That shit is lazers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PETE: Peace to the world. Total Shutdown started as a computer program for old folks. O1001100111011; a lot of that and KAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKA. It made sense for us to become a band. Work fizucking sucks.
>> Which thing is Total Shutdown asks?
NATE: Why does blood taste like metal?
PAUL: It would be my dream.
PETE: If you're an asshole, you should probably cut off a finger or something. People need to be more cordial.
>> Which bands played with?
PETE: Yes. You're right.
PAUL: Numbers, The Lowdown, Lightning Bolt, Black Dice, Boxleitner, The Hard Knights, 1000AD, White Man Black Man Dead Man, Space Balarina, Wolf Eyes, Zeek Sheck, Burmese, Hot Fucking Jets, Sounds of the Barbary Coast, California Lightning, Ludicra, Akimbo, Teen Cthulu, Erase Errata, Orthrelm, 400 Blows, Pink and Brown, Dig that body up... It's Alive!, Corpse Fucks Corpse, Giving Up the Ghost, XBXRX, The Flying Luttenbachers, Volume 11, NAM, Nice Nice, Big Techno Werewolves, Das Yellow Swans, Casiotone for the Painfully Alone, Tiny Bird Mouth, Control R Workshop, Applicators, Extreme Elvis, Growing, Friends Forever, Rainbow Sugar, Awesome Reality Check, Mono Pause, The White Ring, Spezza Rotto, Fast Forward, Optimist International, Sweaty Vibrant, Condor, The Locust, Caesura, The Curtains, Artimus Pyle, Avy Tare and Panda Bear, Hella, Big Techno Werewolves, Crack:WAR, Nigel Peppercock, Blectum from Blechdom, Thee Poison Pen, Lo Fi Niesans, The Teeth, AssBaboons from Venus, The Intima, The Church Steps, Gold Chains, Arab on Radar, Canaries Kept Quiet Kill, Rocket Science and the Nigger Loving Faggots, Saint Andre, Compromicro Dexal, Blood Brothers, Bottled Og, Panama, Hair Police, Neon Hunk, Deerhoof.
>>Who have you most enjoy?
NATE: Orthrelm, Casiotone for the Painfully Alone, Deerhoof, The Lightest
Chains, Burmese, Pink and Brown, Numbers, Nam.
PAUL: I've most enjoyed The Hard Knights, they are lazers!, and also, the bands listed above except Pink and Brown who totally suck sick shit.
PETE: Oh yeah, I enjoy that very much. RTE #$@ J24i 24 %!#@!!!!!
>> Which thing is wrong with the neck of Nate Denver?
NATE: A strawberry scent emanates from it, unlike a turtle.
PAUL: It is made of wood, and has been taken apart 000D01CZX23DF509431428519X71-97AXTR34959-1W4875 times eighty hundred nine.
PETE: The neck of Nate Denver is made out of bamboo, horse radish and straw, I think. He's a good looking man.
>> You appreciate the murder? Is the murder something that you are supporting?
NATE: I dislike murder, except in movies and books. In real life I never like
PAUL: I assume your referencing of my other musical group which is entitled: MURDER MURDER, but we are in reference to the Murder of not living things, but stagnent brain waves that control our children (and our children's children). I in no way support the murder of any living things, including cats, animals, Garfield, insects, humans, horses, horses that look like humans, werewolves, cows, people, flies, uncles, the abomidable snow womyn, porpuses, mammal creatures, bad seeds, sasquatches and chickens. However, i do believe in self defense if being attacked, which to me does not include a spider crawling on your arm or a human crawling on your arm.
PETE: I don't support anything with the letter "M" in it.
>> You support the Hate?
NATE: I do not. It's not sharks fault that humans taste that way.
PAUL: "I Hate Hate" --Reagan Youth I pretty much fall in line with that.
PETE: I support all things with the letter "H" in it. Hate is a human feeling, much like KAKAKAKA.
>> Which thing is your politics? You are of agreement with the actions of Bush/America?
NATE: My politics is the golden rule. I like America. Bush is a knucklehead. Ice cream tastes hella good.
PAUL: It's emberressing that Bush is the CEO of this Country, and because he is, any thing the US does, is emberressing and fake gucci bag. I enjoy living here and all, but I feel like Americans are seen as arrogent bullies or cops in the worlds eyes, and my two favorite songs are Cop Killer and Fuck the Police (favorite movie: Rookie Cop). I voted for Ralph Nader in the last two elections, and next time i'll probably vote for WOPR aka Joshua from the film entitled: WARGAMES, or a beautiful waterfall with shiny rocks at the bottom and music.
PETE: What is this so-called "politics?" What is this so-called "television viewing set?"
>> Capitalismo or Anarchy? Which is your prefer?
NATE: Capitalismo because one day I hope to be very rich.
PAUL: I much prefer Anarchism, I would call myself a Anarchro-Syndicalist. The CNT and FAI during the Spanish Civil War are very inspirational to me. In America, we have Capitalism which puts money before people which creates a total shitmouth sandwich.
PETE: I'm Vietnamese. Yes. Thanks for interviewing me. It was fun.
>> You like art, too? Who makes the good art?
NATE: I love art. Paul, Bob, Paul A., Josh, Scott C.,Whiteley, Blake, Mom,
Michelangelo, Bach, Louis CK, Brian Reagan.
PAUL: Yes, Chris Burden, Will Rogan, Bob Linder, Paul McCarthy, Jenn Sackett, Mike Kelley, Tony Labat, Winslow Homer, David Shrigly, Jon Dwyer, Brian Chippendale, Saara Triaster, Galen Donaldson, Sam McPheeters, Fort Thunder, Nate Denver, Andy Kaufman, Kevin Costner, Yoko Ono, Fynn Sloyen, Jibz Cameron, Donny Miller, Gabe Mindel, Mike Kosturos, Emory Douglas, Jason Wilson, Aaron Reeves, Allison Shields, Katherine Williamson, Cori Piepon, Rose Meyers, Ben Clark, Jay Leno, Virgil Porter, Cy Twombly, Kurt Schwitters, Jim Davis and Nicola Kuperus.
>> Which thing is the future?
NATE: Turtles with tusks.
PAUL: A split 7" with XBXRX.
A song on the Toyo Records 20 second comp.
A song on the new 5RC comp.
A full length on Motown/Trojan (split release)!!!
A tour of Japan
A tour of the US with Numbers and or Friends Forever
A tour of Europe
A tour of Bora Bora
A DVD/VHS Total Shutdown video
A new t-shirts and buttons
Jet packs, solor powered awesomeness and my favorite food (East African).
PETE: Thanks. I am a genius.
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